* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - plasticity (zero)14}--{23.30MEG14}-{264KBPS14}-{222KHZ14}--{27:0314}
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> light_source {
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     <LOCATION>
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     color <COLOUR>
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     spotlight
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     point_at <POINT_AT>
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     radius RADIUS
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> Prime' Try this:
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - neologic spasm (dislocated)14}--{23.63MEG14}-{264KBPS14}-{211KHZ14}--{27:4514}
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     falloff FALLOFF
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     tightness TIGHTNESS
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     [ looks_like { OBJECT } ]
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     [ fade_distance FADE_DISTANCE ]
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> 12 #include "colors"
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> camera {
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF>   location <0,2,-1>
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF>   look_at <0,0,0>
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF>   
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> }
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     [ fade_power FADE_POWER ]
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>     [ atmospheric_attenuation BOOL ]
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL>   }
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> try that one
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> keep going locut0s
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> huh?
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> sphere { <0,0,0> 1
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF>   pigment{ color Red }
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> }
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> light_source{ <2,100,-100> color White }
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> Prime: Do you see it?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i was giving you a different light to use
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> it's a spotlight
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2Doctorin' the Tardis14}-{2Time Lords (KLF)14}--{23.36MEG14}-{2128KBPS14}-{244KHZ14}--{23:3514}
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Twyst, stop that!
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> Prime: I can DCC you the code for making a basic Red sphere you want it????
<NEWpov> (DALpov) * _panacea ducks
<Twyst> pan: no. Working on my script. 
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> YES
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> it worked
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> when i changed the light thing
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> YESSS YESSS YESSS
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> 2,100,-100?
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> wow...
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> good, now your up and running, eh?
<NEWpov> <Locut0s@EF> Bye:
<NEWpov> (EFpov) *** Signoff: Locut0s (Leaving)
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> why does it work better when the light source is farther away?
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> I don't understand
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i have no friggin clue
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> heh
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<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i have been using mostly 3d studio max r2 lately
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<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i gave up on text coding
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> me brain don't think that way
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> and the whole z is into the screen thing never quite jived with me, considering i've thought that z was up my 
  whole life
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<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> well, warpticon, did you find out what you needed to know?
<NEWpov> (DALpov) *** The-Ragnarok (Atlas-Guar@ltbrpx10-port-62.agt.net) just joined #povray.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> well..no, I didn't.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@EF> #blender is empty.
<NEWpov> (DALpov) *** The-Ragnarok is now known as Tea-Party
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@EF> well...there's someone in there, but that person doesn't respond.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@EF> might be a bot...dunno.
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - neologic spasm (dislocated)14}--{23.63MEG14}-{2128KBPSKBPS14}-{211KHZKHZ14}--{23:5
  214}
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Twyst, you know the web page addy for blender?
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> hey, twyst...you're the one with the software reviews and stuff, rigth?
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - plasticity (zero)14}--{23.30MEG14}-{2UNKNOWNKBPS14}-{2UNKNOWNKHZ14}--{2UNKNOWN14}
<Twyst> yea
<Twyst> blender = www.neogeo.nl
<NEWpov> (DALpov) * Tea-Party feels his comp actually almost come to a halt... grr on povray niceness.. hehehehe... its not nice right now 
  :-P
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> thanks.  and I don't suppose you know anything about Moonlight Creator, eh?
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - plasticity (zero)14}--{23.30MEG14}-{2UNKNOWN14}-{2UNKNOWN14}--{2UNKNOWN14}
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> that would be a modeller that's useless
<Twyst> tried it, it seems nice, but not very useful to me
<NEWpov> <Tea-Party@DAL> i find alot of modellers useless
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i've tried it, nice idea, but, not good
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i tried actually MODELLING in it
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@EF> heh....one of those interface-over-utility type deals?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> all the sample models were modeled in something else
<Twyst> ok. I got the GUTS of my mp3 system working. 
<Twyst> =)
<Twyst> now for the rest of it.. the interface
<Twyst> =)
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> heh.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> reminds me, I neet to get back up to speed in spatch.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> sPatch is GOOD
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> indeed it is.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> looks cheap, but when you really get into it it is a good thing
* Twyst 2is Playing 2MP314}--{2front line assembly - neologic spasm (dislocated)14}--{23.63MEG14}-{2UNKNOWN14}-{2UNKNOWN14}--{2UNKNO
  WN14}
<Twyst> ok. I got this beast licked. =)
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> though I wish (and it's not spatch's fault) that the layers were functional in formats other than native spf.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> grrrr.....Twyst yelled at me a month ago about playing tunes in the channels
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> er...spatch format.
<Twyst> pan: I'm an op
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@EF> well, I'm through being on 2 servers in here...:)
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<Twyst> And it wasn't the TUNES i was objecting to
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> duh, i know that
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> that give you the right to irritate the rest of us?
<Twyst> it was the CTCP sound requests that your script was making
<NEWpov> (DALpov) * _panacea ducks in the corner
<Twyst> pan: actually, yes, it DOES.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> that's bogus, Twyst, and you know it
<NEWpov> <Restil@DAL> :)
<Twyst> pan: Uhm, it's NOT. If you don't like it, you're MORE than welcome to go elsewhere.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> this channel isn't about watching Twyst work the bugs out of his script
<NEWpov> (DALpov) * Warpticon wows.
<NEWpov> <Restil@DAL> Argh...  here we go again.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> blender, if nothing else, looks good.  should be fairly easy to get around in.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> it's about pov, which we were talking about
<NEWpov> <Tea-Party@DAL> huh?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> no offense
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Warpticon, i never could figure blender out
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> too many buttons
<Twyst> pan: I hate to break it to you, but 1. this is OUR channel. 2. these bots DON'T have to be here. 3. Just because you use pov, does 
  NOT give you any right to dictate what an OP can or cannot do.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> heh...
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> well, you don't have to use them *all*. :P
<Twyst> if you were an IRCop, then yes, you could tell me what to do.
<Twyst> R.H.I.P.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> oh, sorry Twyst, forgot that somebody died and made you God
<NEWpov> <Restil@DAL> The tension mounts.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> ;-)
<NEWpov> <Tea-Party@DAL> another month till the deadline.. i donno if i can make it :-(
<Twyst> pan: actually, apart from the fact that I earned my way in, and happen to maintain this chanel %90 of the time...
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> what's the deadline on Tea?
<NEWpov> <Tea-Party@DAL> IRTC
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you don't maintain shit, sorry, without people coming here, nobody would give a flying you know what
<Twyst> Hmm. the bots are MINE. 
<NEWpov> <Tea-Party@DAL> and... at the rate i'm going, i'll be done by year 2000... its going soo slow....
<Twyst> I run them at my expense. IE. internet connection.
<Twyst> I happen to maintain the connection between them. I was the one who initally joined the channels.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i really don't care about the bots, i care about an op whose rules don't seem to apply to himself, and i care 
  about having a conversation about pov without being bothered with someones tunes
<Twyst> You forget. I AM an op. And as I said before, R.H.I.P.
<Twyst> Rank Hath Its Privileges.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> well, look
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i could put you on ignore, but that don't work since i can't see the other nets
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> cause i have to ignore dalpov
<Twyst> Again, as I HAD said at the time it wasn't the messages from your tunes. It was teh CTCP sound requests. 
<NEWpov> (DALpov) *** Signoff: Tea-Party (Quit: Leaving)
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> just forget it Twyst, your stuck on yourself, and im done talking about it
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> do what you want
<Twyst> Actually, i do. 
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<Tea-Party> why exactly is there a chanserv IN the chan?
<Twyst> becausae Newnet is like that.
<Twyst> =/
<Twyst> Hey, i'm not an admin/owner of NewNet
<Tea-Party> its weird.. on dalnet, chanserv's only in the chanel if there's a mKick
<Twyst> ya, Newnet has a few wierd things about it.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> anyways as i was saying Warpticon, there are a few trillion buttons in blender
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i don't know how much help the docs will be
<Tea-Party> anyway dalnet was being boring, so i'm going to give newnet a visit for a while
<Tea-Party> +
<NEWpov> (EFpov) *** _panacea (digital@dial-win-usr-1-27.tctc.com) just joined #povray.
<NEWpov> <Warpticon@DAL> that's quite a bit of buttons.
-NEWpov- Message Sent!
-NEWpov- Message Sent!
-NEWpov- (DALpov) Message from Restil:
-NEWpov- "test message. tell me if I got this right."
-NEWpov- Message Sent!
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Twyst, i still haven't seen any of your pictures do you have any?
<Twyst> no
<Twyst> I spend far too much time maintaining the channel, my site, and working
-NEWpov- (DALpov) Message from Restil:
-NEWpov- "I'm trying to calm him down. :)"
<Tea-Party> your going to be the assistant webmaster of povray.org? whoa
<Twyst> yea
<Twyst> So I figure I might have my work cut out for me
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Twyst, do you ever even use pov anymore?
<Twyst> Ya, about 2 - 3 times a week
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> can i see some of your work?
<Tea-Party> i use it that much a day... and i'm still a newbie
<Twyst> As I said, I haven't got any. I did put an entry into the Magic round of the IRTC.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i think your a wannabe
<Tea-Party> whats your name again?
<Tea-Party> pan - you entering into the IRTC this round?
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> hey
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> how do I include the color file in pov-ray
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> im thinking on it
<Twyst> Hmm. Good to know that you're as immature as I first thought. Question: how much do you think Chris Cason uses PoV?
<Twyst> You gonna go ask him for what he's done?
<Tea-Party> no..
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> all i know is that you talk a lot about it, but you don't output nothing
-NEWpov- Message Sent!
<Tea-Party> oh.. you want to see what ihave so far?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i've at least seen some of Chris Cason's work
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> nothing spectacular but at least he does some
<Twyst> Pan: Hmm. Let me see here. I maintain the best unofficial website on the net. ( According to website hits ) I maintain this channel. 
  I've been asked by Chris Cason to be assistant Webmaster. I work in a PUBLIC job. (not in some office building) 
<Twyst> and you are QUESTIONING me? 
<Twyst> I have put out so #$*&^*& much money towards povray it's NOT funny,
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> there are a lot of Cason's work that IS good in the included files with pov
<Twyst> Do you know what a domain name costs? 
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you have like the biggest head in the world don't you
<Twyst> Do you know what my webspace costs?
<Twyst> Do you have a fucking CLUE?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> dude, i know how much all that costs, not that much if you have a brain
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i can get it all for free
<NEWpov> *** (DALpov) Restil changed topic: Ok.. taking bets now..  How long before _panacea gets banned???? :)
<Twyst> Restil: about 30 seconds
<Tea-Party> i was thinking 2 minutes.. but i guess i was way off.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> well, i want to see WHY your the might pov god
<Twyst> Oh, And DO avoid flooding me this time, panacea.
<Twyst> Pan: NEVER said I was a pov god. 
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> do avoid nuking me this time Twyst
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> for everyone that doesnt' know, Twyst will nuke you if you make him mad
<Twyst> No, I nuke people who try to FLOOD me. 
<Twyst> I have the logs
<Tea-Party> and incase you havn't knoticed... you've made him mad
<Twyst> Every one in the CHANNEL saw them
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> yeah, as if
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> yeah, and they don't mind my presence
<Twyst> Hmm. 
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> the only one that minds is the big headed one called Twyst
<Twyst> in case you DIDN'T know. I was the one who let you back in. The others didn't mind your absence either
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> either way, Twyst, either way
<NEWpov> (EFpov) *** Signoff: Prime` (Ping timeout)
<Twyst> For starters, there IS a reason there's a heirarchy. I am an OP. I control this channel. On Newnet, I OWN the channel. EFnet is 
  NiteHawk and MsB's. Dalnet is IRs. 
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> dude, would you believe there is no friggin sense to what you just said
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> a channel is only a channel as long as people come there
<Twyst> And the MAIN reason it's that way, is because WE started it. We are here on our OWN time, giveing help because we WANT to.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you have never given any help that i know of Twyst
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> usually your off in your own little world telling us about your stupid webpage that doesn't work half of the time
<Twyst> AHHA
<Twyst> man, you are SUCH a bitter little 12 year old.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> at least im not a big toad headed fool who thinks his stuff is SO much bettter than anyone elses
<Twyst> Hah
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> ne lameass can make a web page
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i've got 3 of them
<Twyst> heh. And you get what? 5 hits a week? 
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you don't know how many hits i get so don't even start
<Twyst> Are they any use? Or are they a "This is my spot on the web, this is me"
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i don't think your site is a whole hell of a lot of use Twyst, you lamer
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you know that's all your site really is
<Twyst> HAHHAHAHA
<Twyst> man, you are SO pathetic
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> a little HEY, LOOK AT ME, IM TWYST, LORD OF POVRAY
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you aint' lord of nothing
<Twyst> Gimme some URLS 
<Twyst> You know mine
<Twyst> :et me see YOUR sites
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> theres a whole of 6-8 people on 3 different networks that come here religiously
<Tea-Party> so pan, how much longer do you plan on whining... i'm kinda wanting to work on my image.. but i'm roling around on the floor 
  laughing at your immaturit
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> not a chance Twyst, im gonna keep you wondering
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i said i owned my own business
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> what kind of business do you think i own?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> especially since im on the net so frequently?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Tea, you stay out of this
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> you don't have any clue what's going on, you haven't been here long enough
<Twyst> pan: oh shut up you flea
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<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Twyst, you wish i were a flea, that would make you feel so much better
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i just have a few suggestions
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> next time you come out of your daze and want to tell somebody about your web page woes do it in a channel 
  that's NOT called povray
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> the rest of us want to talk about pov
<Tea-Party> pan, don't tell me what to do, you say your a whole lot..and i'm a newbie.. but i still think my best could kill any of yours
<Twyst> panacea: next time you come on IRC, do it in a channel that's NOT called povray
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i NEVER said i was a whole lot
<Tea-Party> you act like it... care to prove it?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> fuck off Tea
<Tea-Party> no.. i'm serious
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<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> im serious too
<Twyst> !linkwhom
-NEWpov- (EFpov) Message from EFpov:
-NEWpov- "Users on #povray: [@EFpov _panacea Prime` ]"
-NEWpov- (DALpov) Message from DALpov:
-NEWpov- "Users on #povray: [@DALpov @zig{lp} @Restil _panacea ]"
<Tea-Party> i'd rather fuck on anyway.. it gets better results
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i never said i was all that
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i don't intend to
<NEWpov> <Prime`@EF> what modeller for povray is that best?
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> Prime, i think that moray is
-NEWpov- Message Sent!
<Tea-Party> moray or sPatch
<Twyst> Bah. I've got better things to do. 
<Tea-Party> so pan, your saying your scared of a newbie... yet, your argueing your better than twyst? is that it?
<Twyst> Say Bye panacea. Cuz you are NEVER coming back.
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> i never said i was scared of a newbie
<NEWpov> <_panacea@DAL> that's fine Twyst
<Twyst> !linkban dalpov _panacea Cya, Don't bother coming back.
<Tea-Party> then why are you scared to actually see who's better... me or you
<NEWpov> (DALpov) Twyst Banned _panacea: Cya, Don't bother coming back.
<NEWpov> (DALpov) DALpov sets mode: "+b *!digital@dial-win-usr-1-27.tctc.com"
<NEWpov> *** _panacea has been kicked off DAL #povray by DALpov (banned: Cya, Don't bother coming back.)
-NEWpov- (DALpov) Message from Restil:
-NEWpov- "I'm chatting with him trying to figure out what his problem is. He says hes on a quest.... but I'm not really sure what for"
<Twyst> !linkban efpov _panacea Bye. This net too.
<Tea-Party> heh... oh well.. he had no arguement
<NEWpov> (EFpov) Twyst Banning _panacea: Bye. This net too.
<NEWpov> (EFpov) EFpov sets mode: "+b *!digital@dial-win-usr-1-27.tctc.com"
<NEWpov> *** _panacea has been kicked off EF #povray by EFpov (banned: Bye. This net too.)
<NEWpov> (EFpov) EFpov sets mode: "+b *!*@*.*.tctc.com"
<NEWpov> *** (DALpov) Restil changed topic: In the aftermath, the flames died down.....  hey??? where did _panacea go?????